Where is This? No.282

Published on: 30 Dec, 2017
Updated on: 30 Dec, 2017

By David Rose

Many readers who replied to the previous post correctly identified the vintage view as looking down from The Mount with Farnham Road in the middle foreground with the picture having been taken before the cathedral was built.

The farm featured was Mount Farm, and as Chris Townsend noted in her reply, it stood roughly where the playing fields of the County School are now, off Wodeland Avenue.

Some great replies to the quirky picture that featured a fish and chip shop’s sign. The chippy is, of course, in Stoke Road and next to the Prince Albert pub. Many recalled it when it was owned and run by the Stevens family – and what lovely fish and chips they sold, the best in Guildford without a doubt!

In his reply, Ron North added links to some pictures he took when it was Stevens’ (note the bay frontage of the building that has now gone) and a picture of Roy Stevens enjoying a pint in the Prince Albert.

Click here to see last week’s post and all the replies at the foot of it.

Note: when you click on Ron’s pictures they will not open in a new window on your computer, so you will have to click back to the Where is This? page.

A number of the pictures I have featured recently have been picture postcards I bought at the Surrey Postcard Club’s fair in November, held at St Peter’s School in Merrow.

As I am always on the look-out for the more unusual street scenes and views, I did well at the fair finding some real rarities.

Where is this street in Guildford? Click on pictures to enlarge in a new window.

The vintage view for you to identify this time is one of those postcards. I have cropped off from the bottom the name of the street and next to it the name of the publisher of the card.

That publisher was WHA, and W. H. Applebee was based in Ashford, Middlesex. He was in business between about 1910 to 1930, and his cards were usually printed as real photographs. Therefore the detail is superb and so is the subject matter! He seems to have captured street scenes that many other publishers and photographers never ventured to.

This street is, in fact, not too far from the previous vintage picture, so that is a bit of a clue.

Where can this war memorial be found?

The quirky picture is a war memorial and one that could be a contender for the most remote in the Guildford area. Well, not that remote as some buildings in the village which it represents are not too far away. It can be found on a heath somewhere to the south-east of Guildford.

I took this picture on a walk on Christmas Day morning. It may well be the first of ‘obscure war memorial mystery pictures’!

If you know the answers and perhaps can add some more details, please leave a reply in the box below. I’ll give the answers in two week’s time with the next two images.

Responses to Where is This? No.282

Carol Norris Reply

December 30, 2017 at 2:21 pm

Picture 1 : Denzil Road with Genyn Road the turning off to the left.

I wonder why the road was named Genyn?

[Ed: In 1422, John Genyn was the keeper of Guildford Park – the enclosed royal deer park.]
Christopher Fairs Reply

December 30, 2017 at 2:51 pm

Looking down Denzil Road, Guildford. Genyn Road is on the left, with a shop on each corner.
- Reg Dilloway Reply
  
  July 6, 2021 at 8:41 am
  
  The sub-post office and shop in Denzil Road was run by my great grandfather Thomas Dilloway from around 1895 to 1920.
  
  From this post office he also delivered fresh vegetables in a horse-drawn cart. The horse was kept in a small stable at the side of the shop. I have the same postcard with was passed down to me from my grandmother with various others from Guildford at that time that her husband posted to her during their courtship around 1916-1918.
Jan Messinger Reply

December 30, 2017 at 9:07 pm

Is the street scene the Worplesdon road. The memorial is it at Brookwood cemetery somewhere. Really like the idea of a series of war memorials. Brilliant idea David.
D Kirkpatrick Reply

December 30, 2017 at 9:20 pm

Blackheath war memorial, Blackheath Common.
Michael Atkinson Reply

December 30, 2017 at 10:43 pm

Blackheath
Jackie Montague Reply

December 30, 2017 at 10:59 pm

Happy new year to all at Guildford Dragon News.

I think the first picture shows the shops in Denzil Road behind the back of the Farnham Road Hospital.

The war memorial is at Albert Heath or St Martha’s.
Dave Fowler Reply

December 30, 2017 at 11:24 pm

Look-alike Denzil Road.

I used to live around the corner and remember the shop on the corner as Denzil Stores.

It had a large toy section in the basement which was unusual as it was just a grocers/general store in the main.

When I knew it, it was owned by one-armed Jack and his wife whose name I don’t recall. This would have been in the 1970s.
Nevile Purvsburry Reply

December 31, 2017 at 8:11 am

It’s at Blackheath common.
John Lomas Reply

December 31, 2017 at 10:34 am

The shops selling the rival Cadbury’s Cocoa and Fry’s Cocoa are fronting Denzil Road and either side of Genyn Road.

On a 1916 map the shop to the left, selling Fry’s, was identified as a post office; https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/498876/149504/12/101151

The war memorial is on Blackheath, south-east of Chilworth.
Keith Childs Reply

December 31, 2017 at 3:53 pm

The first picture shows the junction of Guildford Park Road and Upperton Road.

The shop unit is now occupied by a lang-established Chinese takeaway.

The second shows the war memorial to the men who died in World War I from the small village of Blackheath.
Barbie Howarth Reply

December 31, 2017 at 6:34 pm

Is that Denzil Road pictured?

I recognise the corner shops if I’m right.

One is still an antique shop I believe.

When I was a student nurse at Farnham Road Hospital in 1968 (then the Royal Surrey County Hospital) the other corner shop was a very useful grocers!

The war memorial has me foxed.
Mike Dillon Reply

January 1, 2018 at 1:27 pm

The first photo is Denzil Road showing the shops on the corner of Genyn Road, the right -hand one is no longer there.

The left-hand shop is now a second-hand shop.

The war memorial is on Rosemary Hill on Blackheath.
Doug and Bill Stanniforth Reply

January 6, 2018 at 10:41 am

Denzil Road, named after the famous Denzil Tulser.

The war memorial is on Blackheath.

[Ed: Wasn’t Denzil Tulser in the TV comedy Only Fools and Horses? You can’t fool us!]
Ron North Reply

January 10, 2018 at 2:53 pm

In the quirky picture the war memorial can be found on Blackheath, a short walk from the Villagers pub (now sadly closed).
Brian Holt Reply

January 11, 2018 at 9:21 pm

1. The junction of Denzil Road and Genyn Road.

2. Blackheath War Memorial stands on Rosemary Hill.

The architect was Sir Charles Nicholson (1867-1949) who lived in Blackheath and who specialised in church and cathedral work.
Chris Townsend Reply

January 13, 2018 at 6:05 pm

I know I’m too late to win the speedboat, but I can add a few details about the Denzil Road shops.

On the left-hand corner of Genyn Road it’s just possible to make out the post office sign.

I wonder if this shop preceded Mr Elliott’s post office at 4 Guildford Park Road?

Tom Martin had been a cabinet maker and lived at 31 Denzil Road as early as 1901, until he died in 1953.

He’s listed there in a 1905 Directory of Surrey as grocer, but in 1930 he’s listed as cabinet maker at Genyn Road, while a William Heney ran the shop.

Tom Martin was also an undertaker; I have a vague recollection that it was he who dealt with some of my family’s funerals around 1907-1914.

My mother told me that a Mrs. Richardson had the grocer’s shop at one time. (Is that so, Jenny?). She also said that the house on the right up Genyn Road was once a shop run by the Dray family, who later ran the newsagent’s on Madrid Road.

At the foot of Denzil Road, on Guildford Park Road, is the Mission Hall in its original “tin church” form. I remember its faded green paint.
Tim Ellis Reply

May 29, 2018 at 2:31 am

The reference to William Heney being the shopkeeper in the 1930s is correct.

He was my step-grandfather and became landlord of a number of properties in the surrounding streets.