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Where Is This? No.204

Published on: 7 Apr, 2016
Updated on: 7 Apr, 2016

By David Rose

Many thanks to all who replied to last week’s mysteries.

The vintage picture was indeed Worplesdon Road, Stoughton, looking north, with Percy Road just off to the right. The off-licence there (just visible) was once owned by the Crawt family.

As some readers pointed out, this was once locally known as Stoughton High Street and also Stoughton Terrace.

You can just glimpse the then new Emnmanuel Church at the top of the hill; and as Brian Holt pointed out, the picture was taken before the houses of Shepherds Hill were built.

The quirky picture featuring the hairdresser’s sign can be found above Toni’s in Haydon Place.

Shortly after I took that photo news emeregd that barber Toni Reina passed away on Tuesday March 15, after a brave battle with Alzheimer’s disease.

Click here to see last week’s post and all the replies at the foot of it.

Moving on to this week’s pair of images, the vintage picture is a postcard view of a Guildford street taken in the early 1900s.

Do you know where this is? Click on image to enlarge in a new window.

Do you know where this is? Click on image to enlarge in a new window.

Where is it and what is the building on the left? That building survived into the early 1970s.

Regular reader Margaret Cole in her reply to last week’s images commented: “Have you run out of these remote pictures yet, they’re getting harder and harder?”

Well, for this week’s quirky picture it is something that is on the outskirts of Guildford. Will this do? I always try to choose a feature that is quite easy to view.

Have you seen this?  Can you add any details?

Have you seen this? Can you add any details? Click on image to enlarge in a new window.

It can be found a few miles out of Guildford going east on the A246. Do you know where it is and can you add any details?

So, if you know the answers to this week’s mysteries and can perhaps add some extra facts, please leave a reply in the box below. They will be published at about the same time next week along with two more mystery images.

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Responses to Where Is This? No.204

  1. Bernard Parke Reply

    April 7, 2016 at 7:08 am

    1. Woodbridge Road. I believe the building was the corn exchange and part of the cattle market.

    Wellington Place can be seen on the left.

    The date on the front of the buildings was recorded as being 1851.

  2. Harry Eve Reply

    April 7, 2016 at 8:11 am

    I think this is the trough close to the Bell & Colvill roundabout in West Horsley beside the A246. Presumably left over from the days when most of the transport was horse-drawn.

    An interesting contrast is the car showroom across the road which sells Lotus sports cars some which have over 200 horses propelling them.

  3. Chaz Folkes Reply

    April 7, 2016 at 8:34 am

    The cattle trough is just by the roundabout on Epsom Road in West Horsley, opposite the Bell & Colvill garage. I don’t know anything about its history but I’ve seen another like it in Smithfield, London.

  4. Teresa Bass Reply

    April 7, 2016 at 8:55 am

    The style of buildings look like York Road / London Road/ Epsom Road area.

    The second picture is on A246 by the Bell & Colville roundabout in Horsley – at least I think it is.

  5. Chris Carroll Reply

    April 7, 2016 at 10:15 am

    First picture is, I think, Woodbridge Road and the Salvation Army building and police station are now on the left…. I think.

  6. John Lomas Reply

    April 7, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    The trough is by the roundabout at the Epsom Road / Shere Road junction in Horsley.

    I think the old picture is Woodbridge Road by the cattle market. Was the building on the left a corn exchange?

  7. Helen Pannell Reply

    April 8, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    The drinking fountain trough is at the Bell & Covill roundabout in East Horsley; often overlooked due to negotiating the roundabout.

    The field in the background is often full with poppies.

  8. Brian Holt Reply

    April 10, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    Corn Exchange, Woodbridge Road.

    The cattle market was built in 1896, and the corn exchange joined there in 1902, it ended in 1970, and was demolished in 1976.

    There was a bus stop and shelter outside.T here was also a RSPCA shop to the left, and a lady from there used to go around the market with a stick waving it at farmers or anyone else she saw hitting animals with their stick.

    The Metropolitan cattle trough is on the corner of Epsom Road and Shere Road, opposite the garage West Horsley.

    The Metropolitan Drinking Fountain and Cattle Trough Association was an association set up in London by Samuel Gurney, a member of Parliament, and Edward Thomas Wakefield, a barrister, in 1859 to provide free drinking water.

    Originally called the Metropolitian Free Drinking Fountain Association, it changed its name to include cattle troughs in 1867, to also support animal welfare.

    In 2011, as the Drinking Fountain Association, it began to support the Find-a-Fountain campaign to map the UK’s drinking water fountains. In collaboration with the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, troughs were built for horses, cattle and dogs.

    Live cattle were still brought to market, and there was a trough in Laundry Road outside the Salvation Army.

    Horses were vital for transport, previously troughs were provided for patrons of public houses or for a charge (one example was inscribed All that water their horses here Must pay a penny or have some beer), and free ones made a huge difference.

    By 1936, the association stopped building troughs, as cars and lorries were gradually replacing the horse.

    The surviving cattle troughs are mainly large granite ones, in many cases now planted with flowers.

    Earlier designs were of cast iron or zinc lined timber, but both were too easily damaged.

  9. Ray Springer Reply

    April 11, 2016 at 11:15 am

    I think this is Woodbridge Road.

    The cattle trough is on the Epsom Road at the Window Box Roundabaout where the road to the left goes down to West Horsley village and the road to the right is Shere Road.

    Many years ago I worked in West Horsley.

  10. Chris Townsend Reply

    April 11, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    At the time of the postcard view of Woodbridge Road, that was the Corn Exchange (or Corn Market) to the left, built in 1902 in front of the Cattle Market.

    Beyond that were the large houses of Wellington Place, which date from the 1850s.

    On the right was a post office between Church Road (where the cart is) and College Road.

    The cattle market opened on that site in 1896, having moved from North Street, and continued there until 1969, when it was held at Slyfield Green.

    After that the police station was built behind the Corn Exchange building, and the law courts on the cattle market site.

    The quirky trough is at the south-west corner of Epsom Road and Shere Road, West Horsley.

    More info’ here:

    Still on the cattle market theme, here is a Guildford trough, moved from Laundry Road near the old cattle market, and now at the Woking Road Depot of Guildford Borough Council:

  11. Dave Middleton Reply

    April 11, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    The water trough is the easy one this week, it’s next to the bus stop at the Bell & Colvill roundabout at West Horsley.

    The postcard street scene is a bit tougher! I’m going to hazard a guess that it’s Woodbridge Road, looking north from around about the position of the current York Road roundabout.

    All the buildings in the foreground on both sides are long gone, but I reckon the break in the building line in the distance on the left, could be the cricket ground.

    As for the building in the foreground on the left with the lantern roof, I’d guess it was a school perhaps?

  12. Bill and Doug Stanniforth Reply

    April 12, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    It’s Woodbridge Road roughly where the police station is now, the building was to do with the Cattle Market.

    The trough is by the roundabout at West Horsley.

    We wonder if Martin “Sundance” Giles has let his horse drink there?

    My ancestors, who lived in these parts, might have done but not all of us are as old as you and recall the days of horse drawn transport. Anyway, the trough will have plenty of room for any speedboat you will ever own! Ed

  13. Margaret Cole Reply

    April 13, 2016 at 8:50 am

    This is looking down Woodbridge Road with the gates of the market on the left, and the hall that was there in the 1960s which I did play whist in and Wellington buildings further on.

    The cattle trough can be found on the A246 at the Windows Box Roundabout West Clandon the edge of Shere Road, not too bad this week.

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