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Where Is This? No.64

Published on: 2 Jul, 2013
Updated on: 2 Jul, 2013

By David Rose

The old picture postcard view of a village shown here last week’s was Wonersh. There were a number of correct replies. Click here to see last week’s post and the comments at the foot of it.

Seen in that photo is the Grantley Arms. It takes its name from the first Baron Grantley, Fletcher Norman (1716-1789). He was born in Grantley, Yorkshire and called to the Bar in 1739. He then built up a lucrative practice on the Northern Circuit.  He was also MP for Wigan and played a prominent part in 18th century politics. He married Grace, the daughter of Sir William Chapple, a judge on the Kings Bench, and who owned Green Place in Wonersh. Grace was his sole heir. Fletcher Norman then enlarged the house and park at Wonersh and bought a good deal of other property in Guildford too.

Bernard Parke was first past the post again getting his reply in first. He also left a reply elsewhere on the Guildford Dragon namely at the foot of the report on Saturday’s Guildford Parkrun in Stoke Park, saying his son came in 28th. Is that why it’s called the ‘Parkrun’?

The statue seen last week is indeed The Surrey Scholar, who can be found in Guildford High Street.

Garage next to a pub. Can you work out where this is?

Garage next to a pub. Can you work out where this is?

Another rather difficult one for the vintage photo this week – but with these clues you might be able to work out the location that is quite near the centre of Guildford.

The photo dates to 1922, and by 1931 a new garage had been built there in an kind of Deco style, so I’m not expecting anyone to remember it as seen in the picture!

The building to the right of it was once a bit of a landmark pub – and is still a licensed premises to this day, on a crossroads where there are traffic lights. How does that sound? One final clue, the ‘second’ garage buildings still stand and incorporate a clock.

Part of a recognisable piece of public art?

Part of a recognisable piece of public art?

This week’s piece of public art / sculpture (as photographed by Peter Bullen) has again been cropped, as it’s in a very prominent position. What is it and where can it be found?

If you know the answers to this week’s, and perhaps have some comments to make, please leave a reply in the box below. All replies will be posted at about the same time next week, along with a new post with the answers to this week’s vintage photo and sculpture / statue picture, and the next pair of images.

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Responses to Where Is This? No.64

  1. Norman Hamshere Reply

    July 3, 2013 at 7:50 am

    Sanford Arms, Epsom Road.The garage,called the Sanford garage by 1968 was owned by F G Barnes in 1945.

  2. Julia Funnell Reply

    July 3, 2013 at 7:53 am

    The garage is/became Sanford Garage and is now Giant Bicycles. The pub was the Sanford Arms and is now Rogues Bar. They are located at the junction of Epsonm Road with Harvey Road and Waterden Road.

    The statue is the stag logo of the University of Surrey, found at the entrance to the campus. “The Surrey Stag” was created by Allan Sly.

  3. Ray Springer Reply

    July 3, 2013 at 10:18 am

    The pub is the Sanford Arms, now called Rogues Bar. It is situated on the Epsom Road on the corner of Warren Road.
    Used this pub in the sixties when visiting St Luke’s hospital with its Maternity Ward, just up Warren Road.

    The garage is still called the Sanford Garage, although has seen several changes since this picture was taken.

    The piece of public art is from the Stag at the entrance to Surrey University.

  4. Peter Bullen Reply

    July 3, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Sanford Arms on the corner of London Road and Warren Road?

  5. Chaz Folkes Reply

    July 4, 2013 at 11:41 am

    The pub at the top is the Sandford Arms, Epsom Road. I seem to recall the garage is of the same name.

    The sculpture is on Stag Hill and is at the entrance to the University of Surrey.

  6. Barbara Howarth Reply

    July 4, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    That’s a clever cropping of The Stag statue, holding the academic key, at the main entrance to the University campus. You know it’s lit up at night with a blue glow? Well to some it’s irreverently known as ‘Bluedolph’!

  7. David & Ann Bailey Reply

    July 4, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    The garage was the Sanford Garage, and the pub was the Sanford Arms, now we believe a wine bar. They stood at the junction of Harvey Road and Epsom Road.

    The sculpture is part of The Stag at the entrance to the University.

  8. Stephen Pinn Reply

    July 4, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Probably completely wrong, but this looks like the garage that was located at was then a T-junction at the bottom of York Road and Chertsey Street/Stoke Road (before it was demolished to make way for the York Road extension towards Woodbridge Road.

    The main reason I remember it was that when my first car ran out of petrol at the London Road/York Road traffic lights (having persuaded my mother I should take her out for a spin), that’s where I had to walk to to get a can of petrol. She was not impressed!

    If it is, then the pub would have been The Elm Tree in Stoke Fields – which, in the 1970s at least, gained a (then) somewhat notorious reputation as being a ‘gay’ pub – along with the Greyhound at the junction of High Street and Old Portsmouth Road.

    I see from the internet, that The Elm Tree is now The Boileroom (sic), “Guildford’s alternative music venue”. Not sure what the Hairy Bikers pictured on the Boileroom’s home page would have made of The Elm Tree legacy in terms of Guildford’a sexual proclivities 40 years’ ago!

  9. Stephen Pinn Reply

    July 4, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    Have just shown the above reply to my wife, Mary. She said: ‘Don’t be silly, this is the garage that used to be next to the Sanford Arms on Epsom Road.’ I think she may be right. Put us out of our misery…..please!

  10. Chris Townsend Reply

    July 6, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    The photo is of the Sanford Garage, 60 Epsom Rd, next to the former Sanford Arms, now a wine bar, at the junction with Harvey Road. In Mark Sturley’s book “The Breweries and Public Houses of Guildford”, the Sanford Arms has an entry, and in it he mentions the garage, leased to the Guildford Garage Company in 1924 by Hodgson’s Kingston Brewery, who owned the pub at that time. No pillar box there now, but there’s one a few yards away at the foot of Sydney Road, so maybe it’s been moved.

    At the Guildford Society’s design awards for 2010, the owner of the garage won an award for its restoration. I find that the clock has now been “restored”, but only the hands are original as the rest had rusted away.

    The stainless steel stag, by Allan Sly who also created last week’s Surrey Scholar, is at the main entrance to the University. I read that it was built strong enough to withstand student horseplay!

  11. Brian Holt Reply

    July 8, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    This was The Guildford Garage in Epsom Road, later after a new building in 1931, became Sanford Garage. It is now a Giant cycle store.

    Next door, on the corner of Harvey Road, was the Sanford Arms, now Rogues Wine Bar.

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