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Letter: It’s Easy to Preach to the Converted

Published on: 7 Apr, 2019
Updated on: 7 Apr, 2019

From John Perkins

In response to: Lord Adonis’s Campaign In Guildford for a ‘People’s Vote’ Wins Applause

It’s easy to win applause when preaching to the converted.

Until the UK is out of the EU no trade deals are possible. Why would any other country waste time and money negotiating one only to see it rendered useless by a UK parliament seemingly determined to thwart the will of its electorate?

Adonis must be one of very few retaining respect for the PM. But what level of respect did he start with given that he has consistently voted against her?

Some people never miss an opportunity to use the phrase “cliff edge” (or “crashing out”), yet not one of them ever offers any reason for it. Claiming that the economy will be “badly affected” is similarly just scare-mongering. So too are threats of a return to the Troubles in Northern Ireland. It’s despicable to raise that possibility and especially so as it was introduced by the EU.

If it’s the “right thing, the democratic thing” to hold another referendum then, regardless of the result, it will be right and democratic to hold another after that, and another after that one and so on ad infinitum. Of course, everybody understands that there will not be another one following any vote acceptable to Adonis and his friends.

Many would prefer to be “shut up on a small island with Jacob Rees-Mogg” rather than a slightly bigger box patrolled by the likes of Junker, Selmayr and Adonis. So many young persons, so little thought.

“Lead not Leave” is plumbing the depths.

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Responses to Letter: It’s Easy to Preach to the Converted

  1. John Schluter Reply

    April 7, 2019 at 4:24 pm

    I would suggest that far from being “converted”, the audience were probably mostly comprised of those who know of and appreciate the many benefits of EU membership. If however, there were a few waverers then I am sure that by now they have indeed been converted.

    • C Stevens Reply

      April 7, 2019 at 7:05 pm

      Can John Schluter just remind us all once again please, what are “the many benefits of EU membership”?

  2. John Schluter Reply

    April 7, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    In reply to C Syevens’ request, here are just a few from the Small Business Prices website:

    Membership of the world’s largest trading bloc with over 500 million consumers, representing 23% of global GDP
    The UK has greater global influence as a member of the EU
    The EU provides a counterweight to the global power of the US, Russia and China
    With Trump in the White House the UK’s strongest natural allies are France, Germany and our other West European neighbours
    Tariff-free trade within the EU
    The abolition of non-tariff barriers (quotas, subsidies, administrative rules etc.) among members
    Participation in free trade agreements with Japan and Canada as an EU member
    The EU accounts for 44% of all UK exports of goods and services
    The EU accounts for 53% of all UK imports of goods and services
    Cheaper food and alcohol imports from continental Europe
    As a member of the EU the UK maintains a say in the shaping of the rules governing its trade with its European partners
    3.1 million jobs in the UK are directly linked to exports to the EU
    Free movement of labour has helped UK firms plug skills gaps (translators, doctors, plumbers)
    Free movement of labour has helped address shortages of unskilled workers (fruit picking, catering)
    The Single Market has brought the best continental footballers to the Premier League
    The EU accounts for 47% of the UK’s stock of inward Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), worth over $1.2 trillion
    Access to the EU Single Market has helped attract investment into the UK from outside the EU
    No paperwork or customs for UK exports throughout the single market
    Price transparency and removal of commissions on currency transactions across the Eurozone
    FDI into the UK has effectively doubled since the creation of the EU Single Market
    The UK’s net contribution to the EU budget is around €7.3bn, or 0.4% of GDP (less than an eighth of the UK’s defence spending)
    No time consuming border checks for travellers (apart from in the UK)
    The City of London, as a global financial hub, has acted as a bridge between foreign business and the EU
    British banks and insurance companies have been able to operate freely across the EU
    Cornwall receives up to £750 million per year from the EU Social Fund (ESF)
    Structural funding for areas of the UK hit by industrial decline (South Wales, Yorkshire)
    Support for rural areas under the European Agricultural Fund for Regional Development (EAFRD)
    EU funding for infrastructure projects in the UK including £122 million for the “Midlands engine” project
    Financial support from the EU for over 3,000 small and medium enterprises (SMEs) in the UK
    EU funding for the British film industry
    EU funding for British theatre, music and dance
    EU funding for British sport, including football apprenticeships, tennis and rugby league
    Glasgow (1990) and Liverpool (2008) benefitted from being European capitals of culture, stimulating their local economies
    EU competition laws protect consumers by combatting monopolistic business practices
    Strict controls on the operations of Multinational Corporations (MNCs) in the EU
    Human Rights protected under the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights
    The death penalty can never be reintroduced as it is incompatible with EU membership
    Minority languages such as Welsh and Irish are recognized and protected under EU law
    The right to reside in any EU member state
    The freedom to work in 28 countries without visa and immigration restrictions
    The mutual recognition of professional qualifications has facilitated the free movement of engineers, teachers and doctors across the EU
    The mutual recognition of educational diplomas
    The Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR) has standardized assessment of language proficiency across the EU
    The freedom to study in 28 countries (many EU universities teach courses in English and charge lower fees than in the UK)
    The Erasmus programme of university exchanges (benefitting 16000 UK students a year)
    The freedom to set up a business in 28 countries
    The ability to retire in any member state
    Pension transferability
    The right to vote in local and European Parliamentary elections if resident in any member state
    EU laws making it easier for British people to buy property on the continent
    The right to receive emergency healthcare in any member state (EHIC card)
    Consular protection from any EU embassy outside the EU
    The EU has played a leading role in combatting global warming (Paris 2015 climate change conference)
    Common EU greenhouse gas emissions targets (19% reduction from 1990 to 2015)
    Improvements in air quality (significant reductions in sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxides) as a result of EU legislation
    Reductions in sewage emissions
    Improvements in the quality of beaches and bathing water
    EU standards on the quality of drinking water
    Restrictions on landfill dumping
    EU targets for recycling
    Common EU regulations on the transportation and disposal of toxic waste
    The implementation of EU policies to reduce noise pollution in urban areas
    EU policies have stimulated offshore wind farms
    Strict safety standards for cars, buses and trucks
    Protection of endangered species and habitats (EU Natura 2000 network)
    Strict ban on animal testing in the cosmetics industry
    Membership of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) which monitors the quality and safety of medicines (until recently located in London)
    13% of EU budget earmarked for scientific research and innovation
    The UK receives £730 million a year in EU funding for research
    EU funding for UK universities
    Cooperation in the peaceful use of nuclear energy as a member of Euratom
    Minimum paid annual leave and time off work (Working Time Directive)
    Equal pay between men and women enshrined in European law since 1957
    The right to work no more than 48 hours a week without paid overtime
    Minimum guaranteed maternity leave of 14 weeks for pregnant women
    Rights to a minimum 18 weeks of parental leave after child birth
    EU anti-discrimination laws governing age, religion and sexual orientation
    EU rules governing health and safety at work
    The rights to collective bargaining and trade union membership are enshrined in EU employment law
    The UK enjoys an opt out from the single currency and maintains full control of its borders as a non-member of the Schengen area
    Since 1985 the UK has received a budget rebate equivalent to 66% of its net contribution to the EU budget
    EU cross-country coordination offers greater protection from terrorists, pedophiles, people traffickers and cyber-crime
    The European common arrest warrant
    Europe-wide patent and copyright protection
    EU consumer protection laws concerning transparency and product guarantees of quality and safety
    Improved food labeling
    A ban on growth hormones and other harmful food additives
    Cheaper air travel due to EU competition laws
    Common EU air passenger rights
    Deregulation of the European energy market has increased consumer choice and lowered prices
    Mutual recognition of the common European driving license
    The introduction of the European pet passport
    The abolition of mobile telephone roaming charges
    The EU acts as a guarantor of the Irish Good Friday Agreement
    A frictionless Irish border
    The EU acts as a guarantor of the special status of Gibraltar
    The EU helped support and maintain democracy in Spain, Portugal and Greece from the 1970s and these countries have become major destinations for British tourists
    EU membership has helped facilitate intercultural dialogue

    • S Callanan Reply

      April 9, 2019 at 12:49 pm

      What Mr Schluter doesn’t include in his post is that the list of reasons to stay in the EU was “found via Campaign to Remain – keep Britain in Europe Facebook page”. That’s just below the final item of his list on the Small Business Prices site. It’s a price comparison website, by the bye.

      So how reliable is what the list offers? I don’t know, though I’d observe that money coming to the UK from the EU must – in part at least – be UK money coming back.

      And I’ve looked but I can’t find out who Campaign to Remain are. Maybe someone knows because transparency is always a help in making a judgement.

      • Stuart Barnes Reply

        April 10, 2019 at 11:34 am

        S Callanan’s question regarding the Campaign to Remain and implying questions re the fantastic amount of money being spent by the Remainers is an interesting one. I am still awaiting the surely imminent BBC/Channel 4/Guardian investigation into Soros and other mysterious figures reportedly trying to overturn our democracy.

        Where is there a Mueller when we need one? Should we be looking for Russians?

    • John Perkins Reply

      April 10, 2019 at 10:46 am

      ALL EU funding in the UK comes from money the UK contributed to the EU.

      Patent and copyright protection in the EU is provided by EPOrg, which is NOT an EU body.

      There is much other twaddle in this list.

  3. Colin Cross Reply

    April 8, 2019 at 1:41 pm

    So what have the Romans ever done for us then?

    Colin Cross is the Independent (R4GV) candidate for Lovelace ward in the forthcoming elections.

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